Thursday, August 2, 2012
Brutal/Typical 2/4 Grinding From Aliante Station
this post will be my wednesday/friday post, and then i'll come back with a ramble on monday. for the friday part first, i passed on betting 2 overs yesterday, (which both won of course). i am strongly leaning towards heading back to aliante today to bet on some sports and study some sports (i.e., what i should have done yesterday)... i sit at the 2/4 table at 1:30 p.m. i had no intention on being there for 10 hours, but i was on the wrong end of some early bad beats (in 2/4??? you say). the worst of these came on a 10 8 2 flop, where i flopped a set of 10s, a rainbow flop - yes, this gets horrible... lady with 8 7 check calls me t the river to go runner-runner straight. when she suddenly bets the river, i table my 10's faceup (remember my pocket 10's post???) grrrrrr (all caps). i knew she had it.. this was the 3rd of 3 bad beats which had me down almost 100 early on... i stayed and suffered and suffered and got half of that back - i seem to recall being down at least 108 later. ten hours, never a pair higher than jacks (which i had once). lost with that set of 10's, lost with a set of 4's, bet out my paired aces on a flop of 2 x ace to a guy who calls to the river with 2 3, going runner runner for the 4-card straight on the board. i forgot to mention this, but i wasn't sad when 8 7 lady went broke later... anyway, 2 3 guy later has kings, bets whole way, but then check-folds river when an ace shows up and is bet... funny thing, his neighbor bluffed and couldn't beat the kings... as frustrated guy racks up and leaves, he explains to a curious neighbor on his left that he folded 'because he plays right, even though it's 2/4'... yes, mr. 2 3 guy also played 9 3 suited under the gun earlier to chase down a flush, and was the one who rivered the 4-card flush on the board to beat my set of 4's... ba ha ha ha cowboys... :) i also got to witness the case card in the deck hit the river to win hands twice yesterday... 4 flopped trips, guy turned 6 for 6's full, lady rivers last 4. guy flops trips with k q, river k gives other guy with k k the one-outer... i will monitor the blog for comments, but otherwise i will see you again on monday with my ramble... have a great weekend!
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I used to play limit exclusively. I think that folding 5-10 bets pot when your guaranteed only to have to put 1 more bet in is ALWAYS wrong in limit. It's not like your playing for stacks or there is a 3rd guy who can raise. You only have to be right like 1 in 10-11 times usually for this to be profitable. What a moron.
ReplyDeleteIt's ALWAYS wrong, yet I was right... Check-call, check-call, BET... it was pretty obvious... I saw the hand because another player had gone all-in... I'm not a proponent of calling when I know I'm beat, although I totally understand pot odds...
ReplyDeleteSounds very typical of 2/4 at a locals casino. But here's the thing, Coach. When I was strictly a 2/4 player, I heard all the time that this is what happens in limit, you need to move to No Limit to be able to bet people off hands.
ReplyDeleteGuess what, now that I play NL, I see stupid, really bad calls all the time. And when you lose a big pot because someone hit a draw they were getting terrible odds to call, it doesn't make you any happier that the guy stacking up the chips played it really, really dumb. And knowing that he doesn't even have the excuse that it was "only four bucks" doesn't make it any comforting.
Yeah and thus the 2/4 limit games for now Rob... Protect myself and my limited bankroll from the insanely long odds beats...
ReplyDeletedoes either of u believe a good player can make as little as $100 a week above the rake longterm at $2-4?
ReplyDeleteYou'd still have to be a good player and run well Tony. The good things about limit are protecting your bankroll, inferior competition, and an invreased likelihood of high hands and jackpots because most hands get to the river. I will be playing small tounies and 1/2 no limit once I get more settled. Even 3/6 and 4/8 for that matter...
ReplyDeleteFrom my experience, I don't really think you can make any money at 2/4 Too much luck, too many suckouts, too much rake.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you play for all those promos and jackpots and bonuses, I think you end up spewing more chips chasing longshot jackpot draws than you can ever win, unless your score a really big bad beat jackpot.
It seems strange you are grinding against the locals instead of dipping into the donkey infested waters of the BSC's.
ReplyDeleteFair point, but at the time I was staying at a friend's place near Aliante Station, which isn't near anything else... :)
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